Steorn Debunkers Get It Wrong - Again!

We're normally quite a serious bunch here at FETruth but sometimes one comes along that has us crying into our Guiness with laughter. In what will be seen now as an embarrasing and factually incorrect statement, Bob Park (famed debunker) recently wrote this little gem in his column when he referred to Steorn:

"In 2007 the company went belly-up."

FETruth: Really Bob? Are you 100% sure about that mate? Anywho, we'll get back to that, moving on..

Joining the party also was James Randi (another famed debunker) helpfully propogating Park's nonsense on his own JREF forums. (Park and he are old friends) Randi had this to say..

SHUT DOWN DUE TO FAILURE
You’ll perhaps remember the Steorn company in Dublin who made the loud perpetual motion machine claims? They’d assembled a jury of scientists to evaluate their 2006 claim of generating free energy – we last referred to this miracle at http://www.randi.org/joom/content/view/80/27/, pointing out that it was simply the old reciprocating-magnet-wheel idea, and most likely just a way of luring investors. Well, Bob Park just informed us that they’re now out of business. Surprise! But what happened to the money that investors sent them…? Inquiring minds want to know. At bobpark.physics.umd.edu/WN06/wn082506.html you’ll find the story. There are other companies – with the same theme – offering the same miracle.

Steorn's response:
"Wow, I wish that some one would tell me this stuff, I need not have turned up to the office all that time. Good to see that JREF is reliable as ever! "

FE Truth comments: Had Park bothered to make a simple telephone call to Steorn's offices he would have found that they're very much alive and in business as usual, the jury is still active, the SPDC is in full flow -(I logged in and spoke to Steorn staff this morning), and the Steorn webservers hosting tens of thousands of users are still operating as normal.

Debunkers need something to debunk, just happens they picked the wrong one this time. Had they used logic and made the most basic of enquiries they'd have seen that Steorn are very much alive and conducting business as usual. If filling column inches on websites is the name keeps they're userbase coming back then at least they achieved that.

ROFLMAO

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BREAKING: WhipMag Designer Makes Public Statement

Public Statement by "Overconfident": reproduced exactly

"There's magic, or serendipity at work here. Al constructed this device merely to prove to me that what I was seeing in my dream was pure fantasy, that OU from magnets was not possible."

"He still believes this."

"And I am willing to accept that as well, once it has been rigorously studied. Other than a whimsical name I first used (MPMM), I have not made any claims for this device and I half expect it to be nothing more than a curiosity. But the other half thinks this might be the greatest discovery since fire."

"During prototype construction, Al discovered some unexpected behavior. He has not made any claims for the device either, simply demonstrated the anomaly he has seen. He and I are both encouraging further study and we are participating in the effort to the extent we are individually capable."

"If you want to better understand what's happening here, build it, study it, create your own theories. Please don't attack us for what we have shared. "

Everything I might know has been posted here in the Steorn forum.

The effect discovered by Al is not even something I would have expected. If you look at my graphics and animations, you will see that I was considering a much larger and slower device, using many more magnets.

The effect you saw in the video was completely unexpected, just a fluke. It may well be the only thing worth the effort to explain. Still, it appears to be something new and interesting. I still would like to see my original concept constructed and analyzed.

I'm truly sorry I am not able to explain what's happening in the device. That was why I tried to discuss some of my thoughts with others much more knowledgable.

All of them scoffed at the idea, including Al. I am just an aging baby boomer with a high-school education. I had an idea that appears to never have been examined by an inquisitive mind. And that is all I'm asking for.Al is my angel. At least he took some of his time to try and demonstrate to me, at my level, how this idea "Cannot Possibly Work". That's more than anyone else was willing to do. Nobody here can possibly miss his presence more than I do.

Doing what I have has turned my life upside down. I have a job, a family, and other pressing matters to take care of. I need to get back to that. I have been trying to see this through at least until someone else is able to replicate the effect. If the heat gets too great, I may vanish before that happens.

I hope I have been able to cover my tracks well enough to avoid public exposure. If there are MiBs out there, I'm sure they know who I am already. That doesn't concern me, eliminating me at this point would not solve their problem. What does concern me is public attention. It would probably kill me even more effectively and more painfully than anything the MiB could do.

I don't want money. I don't want fame.

I just want my idea to get a fair hearing, and to get back to a "normal" life.(If I have my way, this is about as close as you'll get to an interview with me)

ENDS

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Read the entire thread here.

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Alsetalokin OK And Steorn Forums Back Online

Alsetalokin is OK and has turned up over on http://www.fizzx.com/ where everyone seemed to move after the Steorn website / forums and SPDC went offline (thanks to several posters for this information)- we are still waiting on a response from Steorn as to the explanation.

Most likely is that their webserver crashed or they had a power outage.

So, replication of the WhipMag now continues and we'll bring you updates at regular intervals.

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WhipMag Motor Replication Interrupted

Steorn public and private replication efforts for the awe inspiring WhipMag Magnet Motor have been halted due to both webservers being "down". The timing of this is suspect to say the least and we have yet to have a technical analysis of what has caused this.

http://www.steorn.com/ which contains the public forums being used for the majority of the replication efforts towards confirming new bizarre magnetic effects and possible overunity effects are now down or unreachable.

Some users who have commented on other sites like http://www.overunity.com/ are suggesting that the site may be being externally jammed to prevent progress, while others are putting it down to power failure or loss of connectivity with Steorn's webservers.

As a further blow to any replication efforts the SPDC (Steorn Private Developers Club) is also unreachable.

The exact time that the incident occurred is not known at present, but as we write this both sites are still unavailable and offline.

Lots of users are now continuing the replication over on http://www.overunity.com/ .

Alarmingly, Alsetalokin has not been seen or heard from in the last few days.
More news on these events as we get it.

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OCAL / WhipMag Magnet Motor Runs For 7hrs+ !

In a recent conversation on the Steorn Forums Al gives more information on the performance of the device. The OCAL or WhipMag (it has many names) is alleged to have sustained motion for 7 hours and 26 minutes before Al stopped it manually. Additionally there have been separate reports from an SPDC member that a replication effort he tried has went 20 seconds at constant speed.

How long it would have went on beyond that is anyon'e guess. Below are extracts of conversations from the forum.

alsetalokin: I started it at 02:14
It is pretty noisy with the bearings chattering and growling, but I think I might be able to sleep.

then posting later he said......

alsetalokin: Shut down by stopping stator mag at about 09:43
RPM just before shutdown: Rotor 1257, Stator 5030

Al's sleep time = 07 hrs. 26 min.

Check out the raw comments here

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OCMM / WhipMag Magnet Motor Video Update

Same video above, but lightened for better viewing.


In the last few days we've seen a lot of discussion and frenzied posting over on the Steorn user forums. If you haven't been keeping up with the story, then basically a device created by two Steorn forum members - overconfident and alsetalokin has created quite a stir. Watch the video and you'll see why.

Incidentally, the name they have chosen for this device has been changed from the OCMPMM to the rather uninspired and creatively retarded WhipMag. Nevertheless, If it does what it seems to then the name will be irrelevant.

Many people are now lining up to try and replicate the device in their own workshops while trying to stick as rigidly to the original design as possible. This being made possible by the opensource aspect of the design and theory with plans freely available

So far about 10 people are constructing serious mock ups in an effort to confirm / deny the effects shown in the video.

Plans, diagrams and CAD drawings can be found here

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