Sven Kullander Talk: Rossi Is The Genuine Article

A Person Named Hampus Ericsson Has Made a Short, Informal Report of What Happened On The Unofficial Andrea Rossi Facebook Group Page:

http://www.facebook.com/EnergyCatalyzer

The text contains grammatical and spelling errors, but is faithfully produced.

"I couldn't stay for all of it because I have a train to catch. The lecture was good. He started by going I've all different types of nuclear power. And then he talked about hot fusion and when that might be functional."

Then the good par came, he talked about all the different test that have been made of Rossi's ecat( basically read the Ny Teknik reports.

Then he talked about his own test, he said that it proved that heat was made but he couldn't say how, and he dont believe it's cold fusion because that impossible by today's science. But it could only be explained by cold fusion happening. He was very confused :).
 

He also said that Rossi is definitely not a fraud and that his friend Focardi and Levi is absolutely not frauds. They are his friends and he trust them. Rossi on the other had he said to be a black box.

He said that NASA had contacted him and asked about rossis ecat. So NASA was the first American customer that bailed. Apparently they wanted to know how it worked and Rossi wanted to keep the secret for himself.

Sven Kullander did not know who the final costumer is.

He also said that Rossi can be a little bit angry at people who don't trust him. That's why Sven have kept on Rossi god side and never told him that it don't work.

Sven said that he have asked Rossi if Uppsala university can independently test the device, with the demand that all information will be reveled to the public. If Rossi says no to this Uppsala will not test the device.

One of the most interesting thins was that Sven kullander sad that Focardi and Levi are both excellent professor that he believe a 100% in, Rossi on the other hand is a little bit of a black box. He said that there are two black boxes in this history, Rossi and he ecat.

He also said that his colleague Roland Peterson (think that was his name) is very positive on the ecat.

Sven also showed the test of the nickel fuel and the copper nickel that is left after the reaction. They will come out with a full article on this when all the testing is done. But the first test show copper in the waste.

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University Of Bologna Confirms Rossi E-Cat Research

Another Blow For Pseudoscepticks As The University Of Bologna Confirm They Will Study And Research The Rossi E-Catalyzer For 2 Years.  The Research Costs (500,000 EUROS) Will Be Entirely Paid For By Rossi Himself.

The Physics Department of the Alma Mater Studiorum - University of Bologna, wishes to communicate that:

• - A 24-month research contract for the amount of 500,000 euros (+VAT) has been signed with the firm EFA ltd., in order to perform research into the field of the energy production efficiency of apparatuses belonging to said firm;

• - Said research contract will become operative when the Department receives payment of the first scheduled installment;

• - Said research contract (an integral part of the program) will involve measurements of apparatus performance as well as possible improvements in performance.

Official information regarding the relevant research activity will be furnished solely and exclusively by the Physics Department, or by the Alma Mater Studiorum, to which the Department belongs.

[Signed]

Chair, Physics Department,
Alma Mater Studiorum - University of Bologna.

*With thanks to Alex Passi for the English translation.

http://www.df.unibo.it/bacheca/avviso_efa.pdf

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Steaming Mad: Krivit Infuriates Levi With Questions Of Competency

Steven B Krivit,of New Energy Times recently visited Bologna to interview the team working to commercialize the energy catalyzer - Andrea Rossi, Sergio Focardi and Giuseppe Levi. The sun may have been shining and the Italian coffee flowing, but in the end the Colosseum may have been
a more apt venue.

All Steamed Up

Krivit conducted interviews with Andrea Rossi's team and has obtained video footage of the e-cat in operation which he plans to publish in the coming days / weeks. His initial blog post describing the premises and facility where he met with Andrea Rossi and of his interactions with the team seemed to have quite a negative tone throughout.

Krivit's initial assessment describes how he took issue with the way in which the  water content of the steam was measured; According to Krivit, this would potentially have a bearing on the final power output figures. Krivit has suggested that Prof Giuseppe Levi (Prof Emiratus At Bologna University) and by implication Dr Galantini, an expert in his field of chemistry did not measure the steam properly. Roughly equivalent to telling Usain Bolt that his sprinting is crap.

Since that first critical summary blog post it has all went downhill between the two camps.

I asked Rossi to comment on Krivit's point and got the following response.

Dear Mr Rossi,

Can you respond to the recent assertions by Steven B Krivit that the method in which the steam may have been measured previously is potentially giving incorrect measurements of the power capability of the e-cat.

Krivit says in his blog post, “I discussed the crucial difference in steam enthalpy calculations by mass versus by volume with Levi on Wednesday afternoon. Based on his initial response, I could not be sure if he had previously understood the potential impact.” 

I am hoping you can assure us that his concerns are invalid.

Best regards,
Craig

*************
Andrea Rossi
June 17th, 2011 at 4:38 AM
Dear Craig:

Mr Krivit has understood nothing of what he saw, from what I have read in his ridiculous report… This guy has seen for half an hour an E-Cat in the factory where we make many tests, made some questions to Prof. Levi, Prof. Focardi and me. 

Evidently has understood nothing, perhaps for the short time we gave him, also because we have to work: maybe he is angry because we had to send him away from the closed boxes and because we had to say him good bye shortly because we have to make our work. Prof. Levi has explained very well to him how the measures have been made and the importance of the issue. He has explained very well that the percentage of uncondensed water in the steam has been measured in weight (in volume is impossible, for various reasons), and he also got confirmation of this from a specialist from whom he has taken indipendent counsel. Nevertheless, he has understood nothing, or wanted not to understand, for reasons he better knows.

Our tests have been performed by Physics Professors, who know how to make measures , and I am measuring the performance every day on 300 reactors.

In any case we will start our 1 MW plant in october and we will see how it works. Of course I assure his considerations are invalid, but I want to say more: our products on the market will confirm this. Probably this journalist has been sent by someone that wants to dwarf our work.

Warm Regards,
A.R.

Levi also responded to Krivit's post:

Dear, Mr. Krivit

I have carefully read <http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2011/06/16/preliminary-report-of-interviews-with-e-cat-trio-rossi-focardi-and-levi/>your preliminary report on your travel in Bologna. Your report clearly demonstrates that you have not understood anything of what you have seen and what we have explained you. First of all the story about the steam.

As the signature in my email says I got a PhD in Physics years ago. This means that I have totally understood the difference between residual water in steam as fraction of mass or volume. As I have unsuccessfully tried to explain you :

1) The plots you were showing are well known and you can find them in any manual of physical chemistry. They apply when you measure the quantity of steam present as % of VOLUME.

2) As I have told you many times, Dr. Galantini, the expert chemist that was in charge, has done a measure as percent of MASS. As Professor Zanchini has told you the same day we met, one of the crucial informations you have omitted from your preliminary report, a fraction of water in the steam, measured by MASS as we have done, would reduce the amount of measured energy in a linear way. So our calculation and our analysis is correct.

Because you:
Omitted part of information you had, insulted me (and my University) trying to say that I'm not prepared in my field, tried (just tried) to scare me and put me under psychological pressure in order to obtain so far undisclosed data, I will not send you any other information.

Regards,
Dr. G.Levi

Competing Theories

For the rest of us, the main problem seems to be trying to understand the nature of the disagreement. One cannot help wonder despite a generally good level of understanding, whether something was "lost in translation" due to a very small, but nevertheless important language barrier between the two parties.

It is also well-known that Rossi does not subscribe to the Widom-Larsen theory of LENR.  He has let it be known that his own theory of what is happening within his energy catalyzer is something else entirely and he is holding off from explaining his pet theory until November - presumably because it gives an unambiguous clue to what the secret catalyst might be.

Meanwhile, Krivit on the other hand is known to advocate the Widom-Larsen theory and has co-authored a book supporting this explanation entitled "Widom-Larsen Theory: Possible Explanation of LENR. Could there be an underlying friction because they both hold competing theories?

So, was something lost in traslation, was it two competing theories causing friction, or did Rossi want to get on with his work and had little time for a journalist in his already crazy schedule?

Whatever it was it's unfortunate that these things cannot be resolved amicably and not played out for an audience like a soap opera. I have a feeling the "steam issue" will rumble on for a bit yet, but hopefully not boil over.

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Sterling Allan and Andrea Rossi TONIGHT On Coast To Coast AM

Sterling Allan, researcher and founder of Peswiki.com will be joined by Andrea Rossi (Inventor of The Energy Catalyzer) tonight on Coast To Coast AM with George Noory. Among other promising energy technologies Sterling will be discussing Rossi and Focardi's very promising cold fusion technology which looks set to transform energy generation.

The first two hours of the show George will talk with author and researcher David Icke.

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2011/03/23

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Energy Catalyzer: Andrea Rossi's Cold Fusion Device

For newcomers to the story, the Energy Catalyzer is the world's first commercially viable cold fusion reactor.

The device has been tested for many years before being made public recently. This year sees a marked acceleration in activity as a demonstration of a 1MW facility is being talked about for the USA followed by the construction of a massive 1 MW facility comprising approx 125 10KW modules which will be built in Greece.

Although much higher power figures have been obtained, commercial sales should then start with the 10KW modules. As the technology is in it's infancy, it's easy to imagine what kind of power outputs could be obtained in just 5 years from now.

Rossi's Energy Catalyzer truly has the potential to replace all traditional fuel technologies including coal, oil and gas and end our dependence on Middle-Eastern oil. Rossi estimates that the cost of producing 1KWh of electricity will work out at less than 1 cent which makes a mockery of gas and oil prices.

The primary fuel source is powdered Nickel which is a safe and very abundant resource. The energy catalyzer uses very small amounts along with pressurized hydrogen to produce vast amounts of energy so it's very difficult to see any sort of shortage or problem with fuel supply. The reactor is able to self-sustain but functions better with an input.

So far the mainstream media have been in "Ignore Mode" which is something we are all sadly accustomed to whenever a new invention threatens existing power structures and the pockets of rich white men. However, the tide may be starting to turn in the following weeks as things ramp up. It's hard to imagine the stonewall silence continuing in the face of a 1MW demonstration and working devices being shipped.

With the current terrible situation in Japan nuclear power has been perhaps exposed as a step too far in providing cheap energy. Safety should be first priority and it seems that Rossi's Energy Catalyzer is leading the charge in both safety, cheapness and energy security.

Bellisimo!

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Cold Fusion: Rossi Focardi Energy Catalyzer Produces 15Kw over 18 hours

 Andrea Rossi And Sergio Focardi

An amazing new experiment using Sergio Focardi And Andrea Rossi's energy catalyzer has been performed producing a minimum of 15Kw over 18 hours. A minimum of 15 kW was produced continually for 18 hours, coming to a total of 270 kWh or 972 MJ.

The experiment was conducted in Bologna, Italy on 10th February and was observed by Dr. Levi himself and other witnesses. This new experiment follows a successful private demonstration of the unit which was previously held on January 14th.

“Now that I have seen the device work for so many hours, in my view all chemical energy sources are excluded,” - Giuseppe Levi.

Bologna University physicist and researcher Dr Giuseppe Levi was present to monitor the experiment.

Levi stated:

“It was pretty impressive in some respects. First, the repeatability. This is the third time I’ve seen the device, and again it produces energy.”

“The second thing is that this time we loaded the unit with hydrogen at the beginning, and then the bottle was closed. It then worked for 18 hours with the bottle closed. Quite impressive.”

“I weighed container before and after charging, and including the gas we let out to empty the tube of air, the consumption of hydrogen was 0.4 grams. That’s nothing!”

“Minimum power was 15 kilowatts, and that’s a conservative value. I calculated it several times.  At night we did a measurement and the device then worked very stable and produced 20 kilowatts.”

“Now that I have seen the device work for so many hours, in my view all chemical energy sources are excluded,” said Giuseppe Levi.

In this particular experiment they opted to heat the water instead of boiling it to avoid any errors.  The initial water temperature was 7 degrees Celsius and for some time the oulet temperature was measured at 40 degrees Celsius.

According to Levi, the input electrical power to 'ignite' the device was about 1250 watts for five to ten minutes. It was then reduced to about 80 watts, equivalent to the power consumption of the control unit.

“This time I opened the control unit (and examined the interior), as someone said that it could contain a hidden battery. And I can swear in court that the box was empty, except for the control electronics – five very simple PLCs – and it weighed about seven kilograms,”

“I have also seen inside the unit itself – most of the volume is isolation, and most of the weight of about 30 kg is due to lead.”

“If I then, using the most accurate methods possible, really see changes in the nuclei, then we have new physics. There is nothing you can say about it,” he said.

Speaking to Swedish Tech Website nyteknik.se Levi said:


“If I were an old professor with his career already done, then I would not have anything to risk. But any attempt at fraud on my part would be a terrible personal goal. What could I hope for? To have a title for ten days, and then be thrown from my own department. Because (the matter of) fraud comes up sooner or later. There is no hope for it. So if I ... well, I would be really stupid. Honestly, I would be really stupid!” said Levi.

More Coverage

Peswiki - http://pesn.com/2011/02/22/9501770_Rossi_cold_fusion_reactor_achieves_15_kW_for_18_hours/

TechNewsWorld - http://www.technewsworld.com/story/Cold-Fusion-It-May-Not-Be-Madness-71916.html

NyTeknik.se - http://www.nyteknik.se/nyheter/energi_miljo/energi/article3108242.ece

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