Steaming Mad: Krivit Infuriates Levi With Questions Of Competency

Steven B Krivit,of New Energy Times recently visited Bologna to interview the team working to commercialize the energy catalyzer - Andrea Rossi, Sergio Focardi and Giuseppe Levi. The sun may have been shining and the Italian coffee flowing, but in the end the Colosseum may have been
a more apt venue.

All Steamed Up

Krivit conducted interviews with Andrea Rossi's team and has obtained video footage of the e-cat in operation which he plans to publish in the coming days / weeks. His initial blog post describing the premises and facility where he met with Andrea Rossi and of his interactions with the team seemed to have quite a negative tone throughout.

Krivit's initial assessment describes how he took issue with the way in which the  water content of the steam was measured; According to Krivit, this would potentially have a bearing on the final power output figures. Krivit has suggested that Prof Giuseppe Levi (Prof Emiratus At Bologna University) and by implication Dr Galantini, an expert in his field of chemistry did not measure the steam properly. Roughly equivalent to telling Usain Bolt that his sprinting is crap.

Since that first critical summary blog post it has all went downhill between the two camps.

I asked Rossi to comment on Krivit's point and got the following response.

Dear Mr Rossi,

Can you respond to the recent assertions by Steven B Krivit that the method in which the steam may have been measured previously is potentially giving incorrect measurements of the power capability of the e-cat.

Krivit says in his blog post, “I discussed the crucial difference in steam enthalpy calculations by mass versus by volume with Levi on Wednesday afternoon. Based on his initial response, I could not be sure if he had previously understood the potential impact.” 

I am hoping you can assure us that his concerns are invalid.

Best regards,
Craig

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Andrea Rossi
June 17th, 2011 at 4:38 AM
Dear Craig:

Mr Krivit has understood nothing of what he saw, from what I have read in his ridiculous report… This guy has seen for half an hour an E-Cat in the factory where we make many tests, made some questions to Prof. Levi, Prof. Focardi and me. 

Evidently has understood nothing, perhaps for the short time we gave him, also because we have to work: maybe he is angry because we had to send him away from the closed boxes and because we had to say him good bye shortly because we have to make our work. Prof. Levi has explained very well to him how the measures have been made and the importance of the issue. He has explained very well that the percentage of uncondensed water in the steam has been measured in weight (in volume is impossible, for various reasons), and he also got confirmation of this from a specialist from whom he has taken indipendent counsel. Nevertheless, he has understood nothing, or wanted not to understand, for reasons he better knows.

Our tests have been performed by Physics Professors, who know how to make measures , and I am measuring the performance every day on 300 reactors.

In any case we will start our 1 MW plant in october and we will see how it works. Of course I assure his considerations are invalid, but I want to say more: our products on the market will confirm this. Probably this journalist has been sent by someone that wants to dwarf our work.

Warm Regards,
A.R.

Levi also responded to Krivit's post:

Dear, Mr. Krivit

I have carefully read <http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2011/06/16/preliminary-report-of-interviews-with-e-cat-trio-rossi-focardi-and-levi/>your preliminary report on your travel in Bologna. Your report clearly demonstrates that you have not understood anything of what you have seen and what we have explained you. First of all the story about the steam.

As the signature in my email says I got a PhD in Physics years ago. This means that I have totally understood the difference between residual water in steam as fraction of mass or volume. As I have unsuccessfully tried to explain you :

1) The plots you were showing are well known and you can find them in any manual of physical chemistry. They apply when you measure the quantity of steam present as % of VOLUME.

2) As I have told you many times, Dr. Galantini, the expert chemist that was in charge, has done a measure as percent of MASS. As Professor Zanchini has told you the same day we met, one of the crucial informations you have omitted from your preliminary report, a fraction of water in the steam, measured by MASS as we have done, would reduce the amount of measured energy in a linear way. So our calculation and our analysis is correct.

Because you:
Omitted part of information you had, insulted me (and my University) trying to say that I'm not prepared in my field, tried (just tried) to scare me and put me under psychological pressure in order to obtain so far undisclosed data, I will not send you any other information.

Regards,
Dr. G.Levi

Competing Theories

For the rest of us, the main problem seems to be trying to understand the nature of the disagreement. One cannot help wonder despite a generally good level of understanding, whether something was "lost in translation" due to a very small, but nevertheless important language barrier between the two parties.

It is also well-known that Rossi does not subscribe to the Widom-Larsen theory of LENR.  He has let it be known that his own theory of what is happening within his energy catalyzer is something else entirely and he is holding off from explaining his pet theory until November - presumably because it gives an unambiguous clue to what the secret catalyst might be.

Meanwhile, Krivit on the other hand is known to advocate the Widom-Larsen theory and has co-authored a book supporting this explanation entitled "Widom-Larsen Theory: Possible Explanation of LENR. Could there be an underlying friction because they both hold competing theories?

So, was something lost in traslation, was it two competing theories causing friction, or did Rossi want to get on with his work and had little time for a journalist in his already crazy schedule?

Whatever it was it's unfortunate that these things cannot be resolved amicably and not played out for an audience like a soap opera. I have a feeling the "steam issue" will rumble on for a bit yet, but hopefully not boil over.

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Free Energy Claim: Archer Quinn's "Sword Of God"

Since Free Energy Truth broke the story of Archer Quinn and his free energy claim the guys at overunity.com have been following events. Recently one of their members emailed Archer. Here is what transpired...

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Guys,

I emailed Archer and asked if he would consider posting on this thread. He advised that his account no longer works but said I can post the following text below. Thanks Archer for taking time to reply.

Archer:

"for the note on the accelerator, two things, for the guy who said about the 9 liters from 10?? sorry first of all the equation is false, when you have a 10 liter bucket and you add ten liters per
minute it overflows at ten liters per minute once full, if you have a 20 liter bucket and add ten liters per minute it overflows at ten liters per minute once full, the addition of the loop does not alter the rate of airflow once the tube is full, and considering the airflow rate is 60litres per second it is full instantly the wind speed measurement when running with the loop open or closed was the same.

Mike Bell the engineer for whom I built the device is a pilot and carries a wind speed meter with him always, and if you knew the man, you would know his testing methods are exceptionally precise, in fact without insulting the man, he is so pedantic about perfection, that although his heating equipment is the only kind in the world with no competition, he keeps upgrading and changing the models so much, that no one model has lasted a year, which drives everyone in his factory insane. They spend so much time building new prototypes of existing products they can't get their own work done. (sorry mike but it's true)

Lower airflow?? ten liters per second is just that regardless of container size, and if it goes in at that speed it has to come out at that speed.

So too many things in physics by Newtonian bullshit are not true, EG: for every action there is an equal or opposite reaction, well you can print this very in your face proof it is not true in the science monthly magazine, for in front of mankind?s eyes everyday, especially science one very basic instrument proves this wrong.

A magnet, a magnet can lift more than it can push, the attraction and hold properties are greater than the repelling properties. EG: a magnet capable of pulling a 200KG magnetic block cannot even strapped to a front end loader moving slowly up to the same block push the 200kg
block along the same surface with that repulsion effect, the hold effect of a magnet is far greater than the repelling effect. Poor old Isaac, sorry champ but wrong again, for every reaction there is not an equal or opposite reaction, that in itself should show you that you can get movement without power and that magnetic friction is not equal, thus in the same vein that fall usually equates to lift and why an evenly balanced wheel will not turn, or an unevenly balanced wheel
can fall but not rise, this does not apply to magnets where the lift verses repulsion, the lift will always have more (spare) power of the repulsion, that in itself is natural over unity!!

AS for the smaller version, yes you can build the machine scaled down, but we need to convince the world this is the answer not some dinky toy that does a trick, it must run a standard household item so that all will be convinced and all will move to make the change and general
engineering will get into the act without thinking they need a research team to do it, and I can assure you up-scaling is not as easy as it seems, some parts for the small one I was able to buy in toy scale, but have to be made in the larger scale, this will become evident when we reach building the control arc.

Hang in there, you have waited this long to see an answer 8 weeks is nothing, don?t expect too many to start building until it is complete and working, but you also have my word that I will download it to this site (overunity.com) even before the website."

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Free Energy On June 20th?: FE Truth world Exclusive

Approximately 60 days from now one man claims that the days for the oil industry and polluting fossil fuels will be over once and for all.

He intends to release freely available full plans, accompanied by videos of how to construct a device which will deliver free energy. In his own words:

"On the 20th of June 2008, the oil reign and those who governed by their money and crushed the people by the taxes and control of the most basic of needs shall be put down for all time."

Today Free Energy Truth welcomes Australian inventor Archer Quinn.


Pictured Above: Archer with his "Thermal Accelerator" (This is not the free energy device).

FE Truth: Archer Quinn is with us today – welcome Archer!

Archer: Thanks

FE Truth: First of all – many thanks for taking some time out to speak to us.

Archer: Your welcome.

FE Truth: Do you claim to break any laws of physics with this device?

Archer: Laws of physics? No, Newton’s “laws” yes.

FE Truth: One of the best things you’ve done is not asked for any money or investment in this, so right away you’ve separated yourself from a lot of suspicion over fraud. What do you say to the remaining sceptics who will no doubt be saying you don’t have free energy?

Archer: Solar is free energy, we do not doubt the sun?, wind is free energy, we do not doubt the wind, gravity is, of all three the only constant free energy, does the sceptic doubt gravity?

"If you patent any free energy device, you replace one tyrant scumbag with another. " - Archer Quinn

Fe Truth: What’s your engineering / technical background? How did you get into all this?

Archer: I was born with a unique ability to solve puzzles, especially physics or engineering puzzles, I left home and school when I was 13, yet have held around 10 management positions, the last of which was in electrical and mechanical engineering, so I guess the proof is in those facts, for without the paper one has to prove one’s self far beyond that of scholastic paper.

FE Truth: Does the device have a name or model number?

Archer: I guess if there is a god, to give a person the ability to end global warming and destroy the filth that control the planet in one single move, would be somewhat of a miracle so I nicknamed it the "Sword of God", though spare me any religious rhetoric, I simply believe it a little unusual that I have never found anything I can’t do, and almost every step I take refers at some point to something I have done or learned in the past. So I think taking the credit personally may be a bit of a stretch.

FE Truth: Is this something you stumbled upon or did you “go after” free energy as an objective from the start?

Archer: I can usually build a better mouse trap (any device) given 10 mins to 24 hours tops, no matter what it is. Free energy devices? I built the first petrochemical free fuelled car over 25 years ago, by building a better mousetrap of a version that almost worked, however to release it would have every tree on the planet gone in a matter of months so I had to let it go, but that was my first. The cost of LPG rising faster than petrol, specifically after going with LPG vehicle at a higher cost just pissed me off way too much.

FE Truth: Will anyone get an advanced preview of the machine?

Archer: There will be disks sent out with video and full instruction the day before to several groups in the event the site is shut down, but as of the 20^th of June it will be available for viewing by anyone.

FE Truth: How many working prototypes currently exist?

Archer: The first one I destroyed (the 12 volt one) Toys do not impress me, nor do they impress the public looking for something that can be used straight away, not some fairy story of down the track. There are several sets of plans with friends, and some with people who don’t even know they have them, but this will be the only working one as of that date, and once you read and see the full build, you will note that any basic welder or mechanic or good handyman can reproduce the effect.

"I intend to cleanse this planet of this filth and end global warming all in one day and one single action." -Archer Quinn

Fe Truth: How do you start the device?

Archer: Simply turn the wheel by hand, crank or other machine (depending on size) as it is driving the generator which in turn powers a device that manipulates the wheel over gravity with a small percentage of that power.

Fe Truth: Once started, how long will it self-sustain?

Archer: It will run as long as the components hold out.

FE Truth: You mention on your website that the device exploits the natural properties of gravity. Can you tell us a little bit more about just how it captures this untapped energy?

Archer: I believe I roughly explained this on the build page, but, in the same manner that a satellite orbits the planet trying to fall onto a falling away centre of gravity I simply keep the falling components in motion unable to rise up the left side of the wheel by circumventing the circle.

FE Truth: You seem to be aiming the application of this device at the home generator market to take people “off grid”. Could it also be applied to motor vehicles and also, can the device be miniaturised. For example, could it be scaled down for use in electronics?

Archer: Anything is possible I suppose, however in a letter to an enquirer, I explained that cars, are around 100 – 300 KW as opposed to a normal house without aircon of about 8KW max As the primary drive is gravity, the power must be weight x revolutions per minute, so a greater weight is needed thus the machine would need in some aspects to be larger.

FE Truth: How soon after releasing full details of the construction do you expect it will be before someone replicates and confirms your findings?

Archer: Hopefully within a few days.

FE Truth: Assuming various replication projects confirm your findings – what is the next step for you. What’s next?

Archer: Nothing in this vein, I have other projects for patent in a commercial vein of a non power nature I expect to be completed to prototype over the next few months also.

"That aside, I expect much to be said of me, and most will be true, the best lies are the truth minus a few key facts, because then it is easily checked to convince people. I guess the best things is though I may have done a said many things over the years, I have never invented something that did not work, and I never design anything that is not a far better solution to current technology. The upside is that evry person, every network who says anything about what will turn out to be the greatest discovery of all time, will be scorned, and I personally shall treat them with contempt, as will the rest of the world. My peace of mind is knowing it has already been built once, now it is simply a matter of size so as to remove any perception it is a toy."
-Archer Quinn

FE Truth: Approximately how much would it cost to source all the parts needed for one of these devices? Are the parts easy to source from hardware stores?

Archer: Between 500 and 1000 if you bought all new materials and were looking to build a non portable version of around 8KW for a house.

Added for clarification ($500-$1000 AUD)

FE Truth: Are you still on course for releasing full details on June 20^th?

Archer: Have to go back to work to pay the bills at the moment after going over budget on another project, but yes I expect to finish before that date.

FE Truth: Archer, we thank you for taking time from your busy schedule to answer our questions. We wish you the best for the coming weeks.


For further information on Archer's free energy device please visit his very own website.
located at www.surphzup.com

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