Just Peer Review It! : And Other Nonsense Comments
Monday, January 11, 2010
Have you seen this type of comment recently regarding Steorn? I've seen it countless times now in the past 3 weeks.
"Until they publish a paper in a peer-reviewed physics journal, I'd suggest ignoring them. A number of crackpots, both self-deluding and scammers, have made claims about perpetual motion machines before, with each claim getting shot down after analysis"
What this guy and all the other "experts" forget about scientific journals and the system of peer review is that science and more importantly ($$$ scientific funding $$$) is based on reputation. If you don't play the game and do your scientific work within the boundaries of accepted science then you will NEVER get a peer review.
The guys responsible for peer review and who write these journals won't touch the subject of free energy with a bargepole for fear of being associated with tsc tsc...something so ludicrous. Heaven forbid they push the frontiers of knowledge by trying to understand something that doesn't fit the accepted view. No, no - better to keep the status quo than have the funding cut.
4 comments:
I have criticized Steorn quite a bit in the past but I really have to agree with you on this one. They would never get put into a peer review journal. Nobody would publish an OU paper.
Scientists and scientific journals would jump at the chance to be the first to publish research showing that some of the fundamentals laws of physics have been broken. What a coup that would be!
The reason that there is no peer reviewed research is that Steorn have not presented any.
The truth of the matter is that Steorn have not published any data in the years since they allegedly made one of - if not THE - most significant scientific discoveries of all time. The reason is that they have no data because they've not discovered free energy.
Where's the beef?
@Alec
Try phoning a University and then telling them you can create energy with a perpetual motion device and let's see if they even stay on the line for more than 30 seconds, let alone give you a peer review.
Get real. Get Orbo.
What you say is simply not true, FE Truth. Yes, the mainstream scientists will laugh you out of the lab, fair enough, but some up-and-coming physicist somewhere will examine it and will publish it. And after it's been published in a few teeny-weeny journals, it WILL be noticed by the mainstream. (Heck, it might even take A FEW YEARS to get noticed! Like, Steorn's method is supposed to be FASTER?)
Or if not an up-and-coming physicist, some established but maverick physicist will take it up. Richard P Feynman, were he alive today, would certainly have a look at Orbo, and he wouldn't give two hoots what other scientists thought of him.
I've never claimed that Steorn haven't found something that can't be explained; it's entirely possible that they have (e.g. the power could actually be coming from somewhere, we just don't know where or how or why).
But with the known past history of claims like these, pitching directly to the media was never going to win Steorn much admiration from the world of science.
Hence I refuse to believe it until ESTABLISHED, PEER REVIEWED science says "Hang on, there's definitely something there..."
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