Steorn Back In Public Forum - Summary
Wednesday, September 9, 2009
Steorn posted that their ISP had major problems with their European network yesterday that resulted in a 16hr outage. While in the forum, Sean took some time to speak to some of the forum regulars.
A condensed summary of the main talking points below or if you prefer the full thread discussion is here halfway down the page
wtec - What's coming up? Any rough timetables you can share? As I recall, commercialization begins before the end of the year. Can you tell us anything about what form that will take? Or what the public rollout will look like?
Steorn: The talks have been taking place - the exact details of the launch will become clear as it happens.
Steorn: Commecialization has already started - its been in progress since Feb of this year, public launch of Orbo will be this winter.
thebadger: Can you outline what format the public launch will take?
Steorn: It will the opening of our developer forum to the wider product development community, public demos and all that stuff.
wtec: Are the talks open to the public? If so, is there any way we can find out when and where they are? If you come to the Pacific Northwest of the US, I'd like to come see one.
Steorn: They are not open to the public, they are only open to teachers and students from the Unis, we will be doing more public stuff next year.
cordex: Didn't you promise to hold off commercialization until the jury reached a verdict? If so, how does a February start to commercialization fit in with the jury's June verdict?
Steorn: First I can't talk about the details of the Jury process due to the nature of the contract that exists - so read into that whatever you want. As for demos - what makes you think that we have not been doing private demos (which we have), but not yet to the OS that is for sure. When we do do demos to the OS it will not make it into the public domain due to the license agreements in place.
wtec: Is the documentary still happening?
Steorn: Yep the documentary is still being made, and I do hope that the whole story is in a position to get released.
Barclays: Poor documentary director, four years in the make, not being able to show the result of his work due to the NDA he signed. Guess he is not being paid by the hour .
Steorn: longer than four years, and it will not be Steorn that will try to restrict content. We cant even if we wanted to - we have no right to interfer with it.
Evolvealready: Are all of your fully working rigs CEMF rigs?
Steorn: Both 'brands' of the tech (PM and EM) are based on the same principle - the EM version is far more robust and reliable and produces elec output directly - so that is the first commercial version that we will be releasing.
Kaiser Jive Albino: Sean, You said you built and demoed privately some self sustaining machines. How long did you got one to run without any energy input so far?
Steorn: Power output is a funstion of speed of the system - so if you want high power output then you need to reduce rotary losses vacuum sealing and all that stuff - we do not get too heavily involved in that area because it adds no value to what we are selling - we are selling the right to implement Orbo, not a box with it in it.
Check out the developers forum when we launch at the end of the year - then you will get all the techie details that you need.
wtec: Are the nodding donkeys ever going to happen? If so, can Forum members get one at a discount?
Steorn: Not a donkey anymore - we will put one product into the market ourselves (P-One) - but I will not go into any further details on it.
Evolvealready: Have you gotten a PM rig to self-sustain?
Steorn: Yep.
Morgenster: What's the application most likely to come out first?
Steorn: No idea - other than P-One - we will have no control over what developers try to develop - it will be up to them.
Morgenster: So how come you're so sure there's going to be a tangible product by year's end?
Have some licensees shown something tangible that's ready for production? It is after all, September.
Steorn: I did not say that there would be a tangible product this year - I said that we would have a public launch of the tech this year (i.e. it becomes available to the wider product development community).
The thread in full
6 comments:
Thanks 007 for the post. Also thank you for coming round to accepting comments.
It takes commitment to accept comments (positive and negative alike) on your own blog.
Hmm, still more wait and see then. I just can't understand why anyone would believe or disbelieve based on the amount of information available. Until there is either a tangible product or a well reasoned and thorough paper on their (Steorn) discovery I hope no one gives them a cent. That's not biased for against Steorn speaking, it's just logic...
Sean said that there would be a demo of an orbo by the end of this year:
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Sean, will you be demonstrating a working, self-sustaining device at the launch?
Yep...
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Granted, it was thrown out casually, almost contemptuously I thought, but he said it.
If there isn't such a device demoed, but just more flash presentations, no matter how impressive they are, then Steorn and Sean will be demoted to the Goldes level in the minds of everybody but the truest of true believers.
It means the end of the waiting by the end of this year: either it turns into a real drama or into a farce.
"Thanks 007 for the post. Also thank you for coming round to accepting comments.
It takes commitment to accept comments (positive and negative alike) on your own blog."
Hi dardar,
Well, the full context of this is that when I began this blog comments (including anonymous) were always enabled without moderation. Then I started recieving daily vile personally targeted stuff which had nothing to do with Steorn or free energy.
This went on for some time and after that I decided enough was enough and disabled comments altogether.
I've now came to a happier compromise which is anonymous comments allowed but with moderation enabled.
Any personal insults or personal attacks get binned (usually before I'm done reading the entire sentence).
So personal attacks on me = delete.
Thanks for bringing up the subject. I hope that the people who truly want to enagage with this subject will understand where I'm coming from now.
Hmm, still more wait and see then. I just can't understand why anyone would believe or disbelieve based on the amount of information available. Until there is either a tangible product or a well reasoned and thorough paper on their (Steorn) discovery I hope no one gives them a cent. That's not biased for against Steorn speaking, it's just logic...
They've pretty much committed to launch this year which in all the time I've been close to the story, they have never done.
They are privately funded and to be fair to Steorn they have NEVER asked for a cent. In my own experience they have been VERY generous and this company have a decent set of moral values.
Instead of licensing the tech to one of the Military Industrial Complex corporations they are making it avalable through the SKDB to anyone from the man in the street to your large multinationals.
How many other companies do you suppose would do that? Most would just sell it for a few Billion dollars, take the money and run.
"Sean said that there would be a demo of an orbo by the end of this year:
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Sean, will you be demonstrating a working, self-sustaining device at the launch?
Yep...
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Granted, it was thrown out casually, almost contemptuously I thought, but he said it.
If there isn't such a device demoed, but just more flash presentations, no matter how impressive they are, then Steorn and Sean will be demoted to the Goldes level in the minds of everybody but the truest of true believers.
It means the end of the waiting by the end of this year: either it turns into a real drama or into a farce."
From what I've seen and heard I'd say they are deadly serious about launching properly and by that I mean a full launch and definitely not more flash presentations (which BTW are utterly brilliant), but that's beside the point.
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